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Zero Kirby could come up with something funnier than I could
Mar 14 2013, 2:17 AM

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The Vatican elects a new pope, Florida's lieutenant governor resigns after the fallout surrounding a racketeering scandal, and VinnyVideo posts a mainsite update on MFGG. Yep, it's been an eventful day on this planet of ours.

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tsvlink25
Mar 14 2013, 2:43 AM
I submitted something on March 4th, and there have been 2 updates since then..has it been seen? Or has it just not been reached yet? Just wondering.
 
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Zero Kirby
Mar 14 2013, 3:21 AM
Quote (tsvlink25 on Mar 13 2013, 7:43 PM)
I submitted something on March 4th, and there have been 2 updates since then..has it been seen? Or has it just not been reached yet? Just wondering.

I'll tell you where it is.

On my one-week-waitlist.

Patience is a virtue.
 
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tsvlink25
Mar 14 2013, 6:31 PM
Quote (Zero Kirby on Mar 13 2013, 11:21 PM)
I'll tell you where it is.

On my one-week-waitlist.

Patience is a virtue.

Oh no, it's fine, I'm just wondering, lol, because I've had other ones that uploaded faster, so I was just wondering if something was wrong with it.
 
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UltLuigi
Mar 14 2013, 10:29 PM
Quote (tsvlink25 on Mar 14 2013, 10:31 AM)
Oh no, it's fine, I'm just wondering, lol, because I've had other ones that uploaded faster, so I was just wondering if something was wrong with it.

It takes time to accept submissions, regardless of quality.
 
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Vitiman
Mar 17 2013, 3:53 PM
This is one of the few times where you pulling off that "now I'm going to wait to look at it because you whined" thing is looking rather unethical, ZK. tsvlink25 just innocently wanted to know if something was up being that his past submissions took faster - he wasn't trying to push the staff into submitting it faster or anything.
 
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Nite Shadow
Mar 17 2013, 7:53 PM
So, I would like to bring to light that there are 2 submissions with an unidentified submitter,

if anyone knows who actually made these, please report it with the proper submitter information.
 
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CopperMario
Mar 18 2013, 12:35 AM
Quote (Rystar on Mar 18 2013, 1:53 AM)
This is one of the few times where you pulling off that "now I'm going to wait to look at it because you whined" thing is looking rather unethical, ZK. tsvlink25 just innocently wanted to know if something was up being that his past submissions took faster - he wasn't trying to push the staff into submitting it faster or anything.

This reminded me of something I have been wondering. If someone complains about it taking too long and their submission gets sent to the back of the queue as a consequence, wouldn't that still be faster than if the submission went unnoticed and the submitter didn't complain?
 
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Zero Kirby
Mar 18 2013, 5:33 AM
To Rystar:

Ethics? Seriously? I know I already had an argument about that before. But to simply reiterate as I have time and again and again, the site staff are human and have lives and cannot sit down to check the queue every day or perhaps even every week and maybe that could stretch to every month once or twice. We all do this in our free time (at least, I do, hopefully the others don't do this during work or something), and as you grow up and live a life, there's less of that to go around. So I don't see a problem with making 'em wait. Especially since as far as I know I'm the only one who does.

And again, friggin' ethics? It's a Mario fansite, dude. Making people wait an extra week for asking a pre-established "no-no question" is about as "unethical" as saying "No ice cream unless you put that toy back where it was" to a kid in a toy store.

The site's gotten better about asking the no-no question though. I will say that. Is it because of me, or maybe people found that Staff Signups test and found out just how much thought actually goes into answering what is essentially a yes or no question (with fairly tame examples, at that). Something's working, at any rate.

CopperMario:

The problem with the word "queue" is that it immediately brings up the image of a linear system when the queue is not (this is no secret). I'm not sure if you meant that literally, though.

I'm hardly a queue-master, anyway. Barely know how the darn thing works.
 
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Vitiman
Mar 18 2013, 4:28 PM
Quote (Zero Kirby on Mar 18 2013, 12:33 AM)
To Rystar:

Ethics? Seriously? I know I already had an argument about that before. But to simply reiterate as I have time and again and again, the site staff are human and have lives and cannot sit down to check the queue every day or perhaps even every week and maybe that could stretch to every month once or twice. We all do this in our free time (at least, I do, hopefully the others don't do this during work or something), and as you grow up and live a life, there's less of that to go around. So I don't see a problem with making 'em wait. Especially since as far as I know I'm the only one who does.

And again, friggin' ethics? It's a Mario fansite, dude. Making people wait an extra week for asking a pre-established "no-no question" is about as "unethical" as saying "No ice cream unless you put that toy back where it was" to a kid in a toy store.

I wasn't calling you out on when you usually "make them wait", no. What I meant was that this time, you really jumped the gun. He's clearly new-ish to the site (or he hasn't submitted anything in a while, either way), so he was just wondering if this was a regular occurrence or not, simple as that. Why that is such an annoying thing to you is beyond me - maybe it's all of the past questions that were admittedly more demanding and irritating.

Also, Mario fansite or not, you shouldn't have just assumed something about what someone said just because of what other, completely different people said. Finally, I simply chose the word "unethical" because it was the only one I thought fit at the time I wrote that.
 
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Zero Kirby
Mar 18 2013, 9:35 PM
Quote (Rystar on Mar 18 2013, 9:28 AM)
I wasn't calling you out on when you usually "make them wait", no. What I meant was that this time, you really jumped the gun. He's clearly new-ish to the site (or he hasn't submitted anything in a while, either way), so he was just wondering if this was a regular occurrence or not, simple as that. Why that is such an annoying thing to you is beyond me - maybe it's all of the past questions that were admittedly more demanding and irritating.

Also, Mario fansite or not, you shouldn't have just assumed something about what someone said just because of what other, completely different people said. Finally, I simply chose the word "unethical" because it was the only one I thought fit at the time I wrote that.

He's not newish. He's been around a couple years at least. And he's submitted many a thing. Since at least long enough that my week-long waitlist was a mini-meme on the Main Site. So he should know by now bugging the staff is a no-no.

I'm sorry, but I really don't see any point where it's justified to question the staff about how long it takes for submissions to go through. Even if it's been over a month and your submission still isn't out of the queue, that's rarely due to staff laziness/not-getting-aroundness (unless it's a game, which take far more time than other submissions to judge for a variety of reasons), that's probably because your submission is bad (which we've stated before).

It's not that I don't identify with people wondering what's taking so long, I do, and still wonder myself whenever I submit something or even just post work on the forum for feedback. I just know (from experience, as well) that bothering people about it does nothing.
 
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Vitiman
Mar 18 2013, 9:50 PM
That's fair enough, and you're right: asking the staff how long it's been taking on your submission rarely does anything at all unless they've genuinely skipped over it by accident for whatever reason (and even so, I'm positive that's unlikely).

I was just trying to say that he was more or less innocent. That is, unless he's asked this before in the past and was let off with a warning - there's no convenient way to look through just one person's comments on here so I can't be bothered to see if that's the case or not. Either way, I hope I wasn't coming off as rude earlier.

(For the record, I had no idea he joined in '09 and had submitted quite a few things recently. Perhaps I should take a look at a person's profile before going out of my way to defend them, hm?)
 
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behind
Mar 19 2013, 1:05 AM
In the rules :(
 
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tsvlink25
Mar 19 2013, 4:41 AM
Ok, I wasn't asking for a huge argument to break out because I asked a question. I joined in '09 as a kid, and was on for...1 week? Forgot about it, came back in '12, when I had things a friend suggested I submit. I don't know anything about reviewing them, or deciding if it should be submitted or not.
Whenever I have something my friend says I should submit, I just log on and submit it. I don't exactly browse through the site and know it well enough to know exactly what goes on all the time. I was just asking because I wasn't sure, because I'm hardly an active member here, save for some submissions.

I wasn't trying to start a fight, or come off as an impatient kid who thinks it's all about himself. I just wanted to know if something was wrong or not, because I'm really not that familiar with how everything works here.

That being said, if asking a question such as that is against the rules, I'm sorry for what I did, and I didn't realize that was against the rules. I really wasn't trying to come off as impatient or anything.

On another note, something I submitted a few months back didn't get submitted because of an error message I didn't know about, so I was just wondering if something like that happened again (I just love my bad laptop.)

But in all seriousness, I'm sorry...I didn't know I was doing something wrong. I just wanted to know out of curiosity, is all. Can we please forget about all of it and stop arguing, please? I'll look through the rules again and the such so I'll be sure to not make any other mistakes on my part.
Again, sorry guys >.< Hope I wasn't offending anything.
 
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Zero Kirby
Mar 19 2013, 4:50 AM
It's not in the rules since I'm the only one who does it (as far as I know). And when I started doing it, nobody really thought it was a horrible idea (if anything, at least a couple liked the idea). And it honestly seemed to work. So that's why I keep doing it.

I don't mean to offend anyone when I do it (merely chastise), and it's not against the rules to ask the question, but it's considered rude to by many a person.

But perhaps I should do warnings in the future if the question is light, like yours was.
 
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behind
Mar 19 2013, 8:20 PM
Quote (tsvlink25 on Mar 19 2013, 4:41 AM)
I'm sorry for what I did, and I didn't realize that was against the rules
Implicit rules.
Emphasis on implicit.
 
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